*face melts off*

Thursday, 9 June 2011 09:44 am
rosiedoes: (FOB: SrsBiz)
Oh God, coffee. NEED MOAR COFFEE.

Completely exhausted. The Damned Things were amazing last night - I sweated so much by the time I got home at 2am my jeans crunched. Salty.

Found it hilarious that Puddle of Mud were supporting them. I can't even...WUT. I always get the name confused with Mudvayne. Now that would have been hilarious.

Sadly, didn't get a chance to see Andy as I promised I would, but we're going to drive up next time and maybe stay over in the chosen city of gigness, so we'll have more time to go and buy pints [of juice].

Did get to see Joe beforehand. He caught me on the way back into the venue from the ladies - he's cut his hair much shorter (kind of a 90s curtain cut look) and it actually really suits him - at least until he starts headbanging and it goes all fluffy. To be fair, it looked like my hair does when it's short and I let it dry naturally, so I'm not going to mock. XD

I stopped to chat and exchange a mutually sweaty hug for a moment, but then had to dive back in to the end of the Puddle of Mud set so I could fight a giant Norwegian for my view of the stage.

We made friends with a girl of about twelve and her dad who were down in the pit, as well. When the PoM guys threw their picks into the pit, one landed it the crook of my arm, so I gave it to her. There was no reason for me to keep it and the Norwegian PoM fans had already annoyed me too much to consider giving it to them.

Did end up retrieving the phone of a cute punk girl (who was there with a girl who looked like she was probably her twin, but with a massive white (and highly inconvenient) mohawk) after I saw it glowing on the floor. She was very grateful and said thank you at least twice. It was awesome to see people really rocking out for TDT. Old dudes, young women, obnoxious, smelly goth dudes... They declared it the best gig ever, and I like to think they were serious.

After the set there was an hilarious moment of confusion with Rob. He was shaking hands with the crowd, but all my stuff was in my right hand and it would be awkward to change, so I put my hand out to high-five him. He did not appear to understand the motion. I guess he's too cool for that; and I say that with no irony at all. He did get it in the end, though. I hate those weird, same-hand handshakes...

I didn't see it happen, but apparently Keith stage dived at the end of the set and they dropped him. BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

When the set was done we had to run and get the train back, so I only had time to stop and say happy birthday to Josh and ask him to tell Andy I said 'hi' and sorry I couldn't wait around to chat. Ended up emailing him on the train. He said it was okay, but I did feel a bit bad. I promised I'd make the time, after the last show, and I don't think saying 'hello' to me is going to make or break his night, but he's a good dude and I like to keep my word.

All in all, another good one from my boys. Shame that Lib and Michelle didn't make it along, but I'm sure they'll be there next time.

It did leave me with tinnitus so bad I really felt like my head was in one of those electrical substation things, with electricity buzzing overhead, but even that was worth it...
rosiedoes: (FYS: Boypile)
I would definitely say, at this point in my life, Four Year Strong and The Damned Things are my absolute favourite fucking bands.

I've been following both since they first made it to the UK - I was at both's first UK headline gigs - and although I love them in a much more removed and grown-up sense than you could have said I did with Fall Out Boy, I am so deeply fucking proud of them.

I feel kind of like I've watched Four Year Strong grow up over the last couple of years. It breaks my heart to listen to 'One Step At A Time' and know it's Dan's devastation over losing his brother, and more so when you realise that Alan is singing the comforting lines of reassurance. And it totally blew us away to sit on the balcony at the Electric Ballroom and see hundreds and hundreds of kids below singing along to every fucking word.

I was so proud of those kids, on Wednesday.

With TDT, I'm still hoping that the release of the album will bring up their fanbase a lot, because a virtually empty Garage isn't a great indicator at the moment. Having heard their stuff live, though, I am delirious with excitement for Ironiclast. Knowing how heavily Joe has been involved in the writing and production of the album makes me really, really happy. Even moreso knowing that it's going to be fucking astounding.

It's kind of mean, I know, but I would love for him to be the Robbie Williams of this group - the one who goes on to massive success - although, y'know, with less general drug dependency and nonsense. Yes.

But yes. My music world is very happy and productive at the moment, and I feel like a pride-filled momma watching her babies grow up. It's awesome.
rosiedoes: (FOB: SrsBiz)
Listen to what Joe says from about 7 mins and right before the end of the first video.

Also, that bitch won't stop talking! It's awesome!



rosiedoes: (FOB: Size)
That was the most ridiculous train journey home, ever. Middle-aged women should not have to hoist husbands who are too drunk to stand into their seats. Nor should they have to do full-on, comedy face-bloats as they puke in their own mouths in a carriage full of people. Also, dapper old guys in their sixties should not stagger sideways across a platform, fall onto the train, off of the train, and then puke red wine all over the floor.

This is England! You should not reduce groups of very sober twenty-somethings, who have never met before, to giggle fits and discussing the best form of parkour to utilise to escape the train without being covered in sick.

I am disapprove, old people.

But anyway. Tonight was genuinely awesome. We were stunned and appalled by how empty the venue was, and even more appalled by the singer of the Japanese Voyeurs, because she was obnoxious. The Damned Things more than made up for it, though.

I nearly got in a punch up in the middle of the set, again. At one point some overly-made-up bint tried to elbow us out of the way - no "excuse me, do you mind if I take a photo?" or anything, just elbows and unnecessary shoving in a really sparse crowd - so I did a derby move on her and nearly floored her sideways. Then her twiggly little hipster boyfriend started pulling (lightly) on my arms and asking what I'd done that for, so I raised my fist and told him to back the fuck off. He did. And then a security guard came over and bollocked him for touching me.

Never fuck with derby girls, my friend. Never.

But yeah. Andy has completely shaved and cut his hair really, really short. Like, The Kill Pill short. He looks about 19 again. We didn't get time to chat, but he was lurking near us, so we did that little wave-grin-mouthe-'howareyoudoing?'-nod-thumbs-up-'you?'-'good!'-grin thing. I emailed him on the way home to say sorry for not stopping to chat, but it's been so long since I contacted him I don't know how frequently he uses that address, now.

Keith is getting a bit chubby, it has to be said. When I first met them, in spring, he was much more svelte, and he was oddly attractive but I didn't fancy him. Now he's plumped up a little bit I did actually find him quite cute (bizarrely, a girl I think is his sister-in-law friended me on Twitter recently - she seems to follow tons of people).

Josh kept wandering back and forth, looking annoyed; then he tweeted that BA had lost his clothes and guitars for the second time in a week, so he was notably pissed off. We would have been too; what a bunch of knobgobblers. We offered to buy him a drink when we saw him later, but he had one from the rider already.

The other three were just themselves at that point, really. We'd seen Rob through the window of the restaurant next to the Garage on our way in and given him a wave, but didn't see him in the venue. When they came on, they played Friday Night and Ironiclast to get things going and then about a song later I caught a glimpse of something bright flying at me and a sharp pain in my arm. It turned out it was a pick. Now, I was standing three people back on stage left. In front of me from right to left, were Rob, Scott, Keith, Andy at the back, Josh and Joe. Joe was at the far, far left from the audience's POV. Guess who threw it. Yep. The full width of the stage and three rows back and it hit like someone flicking my arm - it actually stung. As Lib pointed out, he's probably used to playing arenas and having to throw it that far. But my God, I was shocked. I really thought it had been Scott as he was nearest. Good arm, Bambi.

After the set, Joe came out of the backstage door right next to us, with Josh, and we stopped and chatted to them. Pleasingly, he recognised us right away and seemed pleased that we'd shown up (I guess the fact that most FOB fans had gone to MCR had left him thinking none of the fans would be there to see them). I told him about the pick incident and he poked at my old self-harm scars and jokingly asked if he'd caused them when he threw it. (Oh, Joseph... *eyeroll*).

He and Josh stood and talked to us for quite a bit until we were interrupted, and then when the girl he knew wandered backstage, we paused to say bye and asked him to thank the other guys for us. He wanted to know why we were leaving (the staff were chucking people out) and seemed to have expected an afterparty in the venue, which he was a bit disappointed wasn't happening. There was a slightly weird and awkward moment when he said something like, "So... yeah..." and lifted up an arm. I think I just stared at him blankly, not sure if he wanted a hi-five or a handshake and then he said, "Yeah, give me a hug, man, thanks for coming out to see us."

I was taken aback and clearly everyone noticed because on the way out Lib said, "You weren't expecting that hug at all, were you?" No. Nope. Definitely not. Joe's not traditionally that huggy; in fact, I'm sure he's been quoted as saying (or maybe even tweeted) he doesn't like hugging people he doesn't know.

He's a really good dude, though, and I'm glad that even though certain members of bandom went out of their way to try to make the guy hate me, he doesn't seem to at all. Just goes to show, I guess: be genuine and people are going to be much more accepting.

One last little bit of cute: he wasn't wearing a ring, but he referred to Marie as his 'wife' so I'm guessing they married over the summer. I'm honestly so pleased for them, I've never seen the guy look as happy as he does now - both on stage and off - and that makes me so happy. It's almost like a big-sisterly fondness. I'm really proud of him. I'm proud of all of them, of course, but especially Joe, because I feel like he's come out of his shell much more and found his confidence. He spoke on stage twice tonight; he used to chicken out the second he stepped up to the mic at FOB shows. I feel like that says a lot.

We are Damned.

Sunday, 24 October 2010 12:17 am
rosiedoes: (Default)
Show was awesome. Andy has shaved and cropped his hair. Joe looks super happy and Keith is looking hotter, now he's a bit fat.

And I would say, given that after everything it was Joe asking me for a friendly hug when we had to go tonight, fandom failed.

Proper update when I get home.

Wait a minute!

Sunday, 26 April 2009 03:12 pm
rosiedoes: (FOB: SrsBiz)
So, if Joe cut his hair, where are the pictures? HUH?

You are all homos.

Wednesday, 18 February 2009 06:27 pm
rosiedoes: (Mood: Gay!)
[livejournal.com profile] icedmaple (18:22:11): I'm 99% sure Elisa's sister is in the Far East with them
[livejournal.com profile] likethepaint (18:22:20): Oh right
[livejournal.com profile] icedmaple (18:22:27): She's with Kadaver in the video
[livejournal.com profile] likethepaint (18:25:20): Ah
[livejournal.com profile] likethepaint (18:25:35): That'd explain why she looked so damn familiar but I couldn't place her
[livejournal.com profile] icedmaple (18:25:46): That video is so gay
[livejournal.com profile] icedmaple (18:25:52): JOE STOP HUMPING ANDY
[livejournal.com profile] likethepaint (18:25:55): haha
[livejournal.com profile] icedmaple (18:26:03): I love how he's doing that and Patrick comes in and breaks it up
[livejournal.com profile] likethepaint (18:26:14): I was like "wait, really, really. Okay you are totally going for it, aren't you
[livejournal.com profile] likethepaint (18:26:27): Forget gay of the week, it's turned into gay of the hour or somethig
[livejournal.com profile] icedmaple (18:26:38): I think it's just turned into Gay



Fall Out Boy - Japan Update 2 - Believers Never Die Part Deux from clandestine on Vimeo.
rosiedoes: (Mood: Heritage)
So, it started like this:

trohman http://www.cnn.com/2009/WOR... give it up for the rich racist guy 32 minutes ago from web

icedmaple @trohman This is all being completely twisted. A guy can't poke fun at his own mate using a nickname he gave himself? Weak. 20 minutes ago

trohman @icedmaple yea, but he also dressed up as an SS soldier for halloween. I think he has some issues past the point of just poking fun. 16 minutes ago

icedmaple @trohman Granted, that was a really, really dumb thing to do, but it's a different context completely. 15 minutes ago

icedmaple @trohman I'm going to elaborate on this, actually: I understand why you'd be pissed off by his behaviour, but I spent years involved >< with the British military, and there is an entirely different attitude relating to acceptability between soldiers/airmen/etc. >< In this case he used a term most deem racist. He could have called him fat, or ginger, or a Paddy, and it would still have been >< with the same level of malicious intent: none. The guy himself used the nickname 'Paki', just as I call myself a "wop" because >< my father is Italian. Yes, he has done some horrendously offensive stuff, such as the SS uniform, but as far as I can tell his >< biggest flaw is to be too thick to think his actions through, or realise that he might hurt people's feelings. I still think >< that even if he has truly been a complete pillock, there is no real racism to it, just very, very, very poor judgement and >< lot, in this case, of deliberate media melodramatics. His friend didn't complain - who has the right to say how he should feel? 3 minutes ago

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Now, if you're here, you probably know I adore Joe. But this is such a media-manipulated way to look at this that I want to smash my head on the nearest hard surface.

Before we get wound up - of course he probably took the Nazi uniform thing really personally, and I appreciate and understand that; Harry most definitely had a serious, serious judgement failure there (even if the party was something along the lines of 'Imperialists & Natives' themed - which, is a bit of a crass concept in itself - and it was an in-joke with his friends; because let's face it, we all take the piss out of the Royal Family for being Germans and/or Nazis. It's a comedy TV staple). But this is a completely different context and situation.

Harry was talking about a good friend who had addressed or nicknamed himself as 'Paki'. He did so as a joke, in a situation where he almost certainly assumed only people who would 'get' the joke would be privvy to it. It's worth noting that this whole thing happened THREE YEARS AGO and he's had time to grow up since then. He's acknowledged that for a lot of people it could be deemed offensive, but has stressed that in the context it was used, it was not intended in such a way.

It's like me calling Julie a 'Paddy' or a 'Mick' (which, oh hi - is actually used in the title of a FOB song, Joe, even if it is apparently a quote), which I do on a regular basis. She just comes back with something about kicking the English out of her country. As I said to Joe - being half-Italian/Sicilian - I regularly refer to myself as a "wop", which could be considered an offensive and old-fashioned word for Italians.

I also come from a background where I was involved with the British military in my teens; for four years, I hung out with cadets of all ethnicities and backgrounds, I stayed on military bases and was instructed by real current and former members or the British Armed Forces. In that environment, the rules are different. Social conventions are different. People call each other fat, or ginger, or stupid, or poofs, or Paki's or black, and it's really not in the same way it's used on Civvy Street. It doesn't hold the same depth of connotation - it's broadly accepted and just a matter of bravado and familiarity. It's like saying, "Your mom!" to your own sister. These people probably called Harry a "rich, ginger prick" themselves. If not worse.

Unless you've been around people who have called each other things like this, in this sort of context, it may well be hard for people to understand or rationalise - but given that the relationship between military personnel is so different from what most of us are used to, it shouldn't really be an outsider's place to judge.

The boy in question did not complain at being referred to as a 'Paki' - he didn't find it offensive, because, again, it was apparently a term or name he'd used for himself. Who the hell are the rest of us to judge what a guy says about his friend, in affectionate jest, in said friend's presence, if the friend is not offended by it?

In the very same video, Harry takes the piss out of HIS OWN GRANDMOTHER. Come on. Can any of this video honestly be taken seriously at all?

As for the "raghead" aspect - please. He's a soldier. He's expected to shoot and kill, or guide airstrikes/mortar attacks on this very enemy and people freak out because he used the term "raghead"? It's a nickname for an opposing force - a force most of us would deem 'terrorists' and who are believed to be behind the attacks which killed thousands of people. No one complained when we called the Nazis "Jerries" because their helmets looked like jerry pots (that's an old word for potty, to you and me).

The biggest problem Harry has, in my opinion, is being too thick to have the foresight to think his actions and how they will be perceived/impact other people through. I don't believe this kid is any more racist than the rest of the average population; I just think he's insensitive and dim.

Personally, I like the kid and I think his dedication to his role in the military, and to pulling his own weight in said role, is admirable.



The ultimate issue here, is that hating or maliciously disparaging ANYONE based on their race, creed, sexuality or appearance is not acceptable; but racism is largely in the intent, not in the words themselves. Affectionately teasing your own friends without intending any malice is not racism, it's boys being boys, even if it is a dumbass thing to do - whether you're third in line to the throne or not.

-_-

Wednesday, 7 January 2009 02:11 pm
rosiedoes: (Mood: Facepalm)
Oh, bandom. I'm facepalming so hard at you right now.

This bullshit is going to do nothing except - if it gets any acknowledgement whatsoever - make Fall Out Boy fans look like bigger tossers than we're already taken for and result in the gosshit mongers claiming that Pete is getting his fans to start a vendetta against the magazine because he doesn't like how he's portrayed.

He is the one who will get more shit for the fans' behaviour and made to look like even more of a villain. Smart. That's totally going to help and make him want to come back to the internet, isn't it?

Grow up.

If this article is taken so far out of context, how come it's largely things they've said before and didn't complain about then? Patrick probably leaves the band on a weekly basis when he throws a tantrum. Andy is ridiculously obsessed with the Packers and has a huge temper; he's not nuts (well, alright - maybe a little bit, in a lovable way), but I don't think it was ever meant to be taken that seriously. Pete wasn't portrayed all that badly, really - no worse than in any other article and especially not in his interaction with Ashlee; that was adorable - and Joe has ALWAYS been this little emo thing. Go read his ancient teenage posts where he wants to Nair his face and complains that nobody wants to date him because he's too nice. He's always been adorably neurotic. I do feel really bad for him that he apparently feels that way about the band - the comments on AP.net should be evidence enough that we think he's amazing - and I've been saying he was getting a raw deal for nearly two years. But maybe this, if nothing else, will hold up that mirror that says, "Yeah, okay - maybe we need to take a look at how we do things around here." If AP is anything to go by, Joe and Patrick have already had that conversation and are working on it.

The kid deserves more credit and more of a chance to be involved, end of story.

Is it the best article ever written? No. Is writing to KANYE FUCKING WEST going to help? No. It's going to make you, me, Pete and everyone else look like a complete prat.

Just chill out. Pete is sulking; he'll be back. He always is. John Mayer is probably cuddling him as we speak.

Seriously. UNNECESSARY DRAMZ. Pls to be stopping nao.

Sadface.

Wednesday, 7 January 2009 03:30 am
rosiedoes: (FOB: Pout)
Talking with Hurley, you get the impression that he’s completely content to play the drums and go home to his Boca Burgers and Alan Moore comics. Joe Trohman, on the other hand, wants to do more. “I do feel left out a lot,” the guitarist says. At 24, he’s the youngest of the Fall Out boys, and he plays the role of kid brother well—splurging on old Nintendo games and $500 Storm Trooper figurines, finding funny YouTube videos for the guys to watch (latest favorite: “Chimpanzee Riding a Segway”). If Fall Out Boy were the Ninja Turtles, Wentz would be Leonardo, Stump would be Donatello, Hurley would be Raphael, and Trohman, all agree, would be Michelangelo—the “party dude.” “Joe is a free spirit,” Stump says. “He’s kind of just off in Joe Land, which is an awesome place to be.”

To hear Trohman tell it, though, Joe Land isn’t always so awesome. “It does get frustrating, not being able to contribute,” Trohman says. “I mean, to be labeled a background guy, someone who’s just along for the ride—it’s hard. I started Fall Out Boy, you know?” He wrote a few songs for the new album, but they were all cut at the last minute. “It’s kind of a bummer, to work so hard and have it come to nothing. I don’t want to sound like I’m bashing anyone, or I’m ungrateful,” he stresses. “Because I’m very happy to be a part of all this. I’m afraid the guys are gonna read this and wish I’d talked to them first—which maybe I should have. But sometimes it doesn’t feel like I’m even in the band.”


-- Blender


The next line after Joe's statement is, "Pete Wentz doesn’t Google himself anymore."

On [livejournal.com profile] truefobinglove of the first four comments, mine is the only one which references the fact that Joe feels completely underappreciated and superfluous in his own band.

That poor kid. I just want to hug him, right now. I mean, I always do, and this is generally pretty much the reason - because I've been saying since IOH came out, more or less, that it seemed like consciously or not, he was being pushed out of his own band, and how shitty that must feel.

I just really hate to see people proving the exact point right there.
rosiedoes: (FOB: Jew)
Me: [reads aloud from list of Joe quotes] "For me, the more money I get, the more I freak out."
Julie: [lol]
Me: [mocks] Oh no! I got all thith money and I've no idea what to do with it!
Julie: Oh, no, wait - I'll buy this BARBIE-HAIR RUG!

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Wednesday, 24 December 2008 03:24 pm
rosiedoes: (FOB: Jew)
Dear Bandom,

The kid is Jewish, HOW CAN YOU NOT KNOW THIS BY NOW?!

Bemused, of Brighton.
rosiedoes: (FOB: Trohmo)
The (Shipped) Gold Standard

Lyrics in full - spoilers, obviously. )

Yes, this definitely smacks of Joe to me.

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Sunday, 7 December 2008 04:11 pm
rosiedoes: (FOB: Pout)
Does anyone else hear The (Shipped) Gold Standard and think of Joe?

And (Coffee is For Closers) smacks of Andy.


(Possibly spoilers in comments, obv.)

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Tuesday, 25 November 2008 04:00 pm
rosiedoes: (FOB: Size)
Does anyone have the Leaked in London ep, still? I had it on my old laptop before it died and I'm overwhelmed with the need to hear Joe's hilariously out-of-tune "Loooooooooooooong live the car crath heaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarth!"

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Friday, 14 November 2008 08:34 pm
rosiedoes: (Mood: Gay!)
Joe Trohman is the most ridiculous human being I have ever met. Note, in the picture below that he has a five o'clock shadow as well as a wonky stache. This suggests that the utter loon has been walking around with that on his face all day.



Ridiculous! I adore him beyond words for exactly that reason, though.

The caption on this picture was:

No one ever knows what they want
Obviously I didn't either

---

It's like he's out to inspire fanfic.

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Sunday, 9 November 2008 11:14 pm
rosiedoes: (Mood: sXe)
I have not had a cable tv in Chicago for almost 5 months now. I assume to an extent, it's like giving up driving, or smoking (which I'm also currently quitting). Once it's out of your life for good, you realize how damn shitty it is.

GO BABY JOE! I'm so, so glad to hear this.

It's weird how he has suddenly become way more attractive.

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