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Rosie ([personal profile] rosiedoes) wrote2008-08-02 09:33 pm
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There is something so creepy about this video.

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[identity profile] ashe-frost.livejournal.com 2008-08-03 12:19 am (UTC)(link)
Pedophilia deals with prepubescent boys or girls. So I mean. I don't see anything wrong with men fantasizing about girls who look like women. Because Miley looks about 19. It's just actually doing something about it that's the issue. But if adults fantasize about children who look like children.. That's completely different.

IDK. Random thought. I discuss this a lot. And sexuality in the media and those "until she turns 18" countdowns and parenting vs. the media and why America's youth has gone wrong etc.

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[identity profile] flexible-k.livejournal.com 2008-08-03 12:25 am (UTC)(link)
Okay, I get what you mean. That was the wrong choice of words. But I do think that the media brings sexuality of girls to the forefront at too early an age. I do think it's weird that girls are never shown boys their own age as sexual. But I guess that has to do more with development speeds than anything else maybe? IDK. I think about this all the time. Tell me your views.

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[identity profile] rosiedoes.livejournal.com 2008-08-03 12:31 am (UTC)(link)
I totally agree with you there.

I've been really uncomfortable with the way young girls are portrayed ever since the Spice Girls were out and they were making leopard print miniskirts and heels for five year olds.

It really creeps me out, because the cliche that a paedophile's excuse is always "but she looked older" is given more and more validity all the time. Seriously: thongs for seven year olds? How fucked up is that? You can't justify paedophilia, but we're hardly discouraging it in the way we present little girls in particular, are we?

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[identity profile] flexible-k.livejournal.com 2008-08-03 12:40 am (UTC)(link)
thongs for seven year olds O.O What?

See in my culture 18 is not some magic number that makes you a Man/Woman. You don't get kicked out of the house, you don't get to live your own way anymoreso than ususal. You are still a child, who just happens to have lived for 18 years.

My cousin is 8 and stayed with us for the summer. Half her wardrobe consisted of backless/strapless/one strap tank tops. Yes it's hot, but seriously? Don't get me started on her shorts. Her mother is ...

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[identity profile] rosiedoes.livejournal.com 2008-08-03 12:46 am (UTC)(link)
Yep. We have those over here. And heels in kids sizes.

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[identity profile] ashe-frost.livejournal.com 2008-08-03 12:58 am (UTC)(link)
The disturbing thing is how many women come in Stride Rite asking if we have heels for their four year olds.

Like, "Oh! She wants to have shoes like mommy!"

To which I have never replied, "Does she want crabs like mommy, too?"

I think there's a buffer for short skirts and shorts. They're cute on babies. About age of four, your kid isn't a baby anymore and other little kids are going to notice and parents are going to be scandalized. So buy the shorts a little bit longer.

It's about the age that kids need to stop running around their brothers and sisters naked.

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[identity profile] rosiedoes.livejournal.com 2008-08-03 01:01 am (UTC)(link)
I feel really awkward about anybody naked. Especially me.

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[identity profile] ashe-frost.livejournal.com 2008-08-03 01:03 am (UTC)(link)
It's different when you spend a lot of time cleaning diaper mess off of kids. And bathing them. It is awkward at first. Well. Sort of. I guess I have a really strange and uncharacteristic maternal instinct.

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[identity profile] rosiedoes.livejournal.com 2008-08-03 01:04 am (UTC)(link)
I have none whatsoever. None. I find it weird being around kids at all.

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[identity profile] ashe-frost.livejournal.com 2008-08-03 01:07 am (UTC)(link)
Some people don't. I honestly wish I didn't because children are fucking annoying. It's the first day of my period and every part of my body hurts but there's no day care so I've spent all day with the kids, trying to clean my mother's house and they keep asking ridiculous questions and demanding to be held and fed and I can't curse in front of them so I've been silently wishing my ovaries would shrivel up for more than one reason and also maybe that I had a sedative. But even if I did I couldn't take it because then who would watch the children?

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[identity profile] rosiedoes.livejournal.com 2008-08-03 01:09 am (UTC)(link)
Ow. No fun. I simply wouldn't have the patience.

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[identity profile] flexible-k.livejournal.com 2008-08-03 01:10 am (UTC)(link)
haha Same here.

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[identity profile] ashe-frost.livejournal.com 2008-08-03 12:52 am (UTC)(link)

I think in the long run it's mostly an idea of the fact that we're hooked on stories of prince charming before we reach our sexual maturity mixed with the fact that girls mature faster than boys mixed with the fact that the idea of the sexuality of girls is taboo because it's desireable to men so it's often repressed so girls get the idea that they can't be sexual unless they're a woman, and even then sex will be had in an objectifying manner which involves having a perfect body and being on display, but none of that will matter because a real man can make you feel like a woman.