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Rosie ([personal profile] rosiedoes) wrote2008-08-02 09:33 pm
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There is something so creepy about this video.

[identity profile] failboats.livejournal.com 2008-08-02 08:40 pm (UTC)(link)
I found it very funny tbh

[identity profile] rosiedoes.livejournal.com 2008-08-02 08:41 pm (UTC)(link)
The way he looks at her, while probably unintentional, is kind of... icky.

Jeanae was her age when Pete started dating her, you know.

[identity profile] failboats.livejournal.com 2008-08-02 08:42 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah i know.
He has a wife and a baby on the way now though

[identity profile] rosiedoes.livejournal.com 2008-08-02 08:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Doesn't stop dudes looking.

[identity profile] slate-and-lead.livejournal.com 2008-08-02 09:07 pm (UTC)(link)
Is it that hard watch a silly video, meant to be funny, without coming to some perverted conclusion?

[identity profile] rosiedoes.livejournal.com 2008-08-02 09:10 pm (UTC)(link)
Apparently not, where Pete is involved.

[identity profile] slate-and-lead.livejournal.com 2008-08-02 09:05 pm (UTC)(link)
That was fucking funny. :)

[identity profile] in-full-being.livejournal.com 2008-08-02 09:08 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, I found the whole thing to be kinda awkward =/ But more in a brother/sister type way.

Still, weird.

[identity profile] rosiedoes.livejournal.com 2008-08-02 09:11 pm (UTC)(link)
It's the way he looks at her, and knowing his track record.

I'm not saying there actually IS anything to it, just that it comes across... weird.

[identity profile] ashe-frost.livejournal.com 2008-08-02 11:40 pm (UTC)(link)
I wasn't really paying attention to the way he looks at her.

But to be fair, Pete just generally looks kind of creepy all the time. Like. If I saw him out, I'd probably cross the street and walk on the other sidewalk.

But I like Miley (for some reason--I know she's useless) and think it's kind of funny she's calling him out for being emo when her brother is the dyed-black-hair guy from MetroStation.

[identity profile] rosiedoes.livejournal.com 2008-08-02 11:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, a few people noticed that.

Watch the video again and pay attention to how he looks at her.

I'm sure it wasn't intentional but it still makes me cringe.

[identity profile] ashe-frost.livejournal.com 2008-08-02 11:54 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, I get it. I've already posted a request for a
pedo Pete icon on ONTD.

[identity profile] ashe-frost.livejournal.com 2008-08-03 12:06 am (UTC)(link)
Someone on ONTD said "he's undressing her with his eyes. I keep waiting for them to make out."

You are most definitely not alone.

[identity profile] rosiedoes.livejournal.com 2008-08-03 12:08 am (UTC)(link)
The fact that he used to date a 15 year old doesn't help.

And people keep saying, "BUT HE'S ENGAGED!" and I'm like, "You've never met a man, have you?"

[identity profile] ashe-frost.livejournal.com 2008-08-03 12:13 am (UTC)(link)
Right?

Also, if you're going to do one thing that's amoral why wouldn't you do another? I mean. I can totally imagine Pete doing something crazy and self-destructive like fucking his life up by boning a 15 year old even though he loves Ashlee and is about to have a kid with her. Just because he's not sure he deserves to be happy or he thinks the kid and Ashlee deserve better or some ridiculous bullshit to be saved for cryptic pronoun-ridden poetry.

[identity profile] rosiedoes.livejournal.com 2008-08-03 12:16 am (UTC)(link)
The scary thing is, I don't find that hard to imagine, either.

Re: This is what I got:

[identity profile] rosiedoes.livejournal.com 2008-08-03 12:56 am (UTC)(link)
I think I'm going to become a nun. Without the God.

Re: This is what I got:

[identity profile] ashe-frost.livejournal.com 2008-08-03 01:00 am (UTC)(link)
I find it hilarious. Like a perverted version of 1984, only 1984 is the cut off date of how young you have to be to get PedoPete to want to do you.

Re: This is what I got:

[identity profile] rosiedoes.livejournal.com 2008-08-03 01:02 am (UTC)(link)
Dude. Patrick and Joe were born in 1984. They're way to old for him, now. Joe's almost 24!

Re: This is what I got:

[identity profile] ashe-frost.livejournal.com 2008-08-03 01:08 am (UTC)(link)
We'll call it 1991 then.

Re: This is what I got:

[identity profile] rosiedoes.livejournal.com 2008-08-03 01:10 am (UTC)(link)
That's more like it.

[identity profile] flexible-k.livejournal.com 2008-08-03 12:09 am (UTC)(link)
So I stopped watching Pete Wentz video for...sometime now I realize because listening to him speak was becoming to much now. But when did he stop saying "Like" every two seconds?

Honestly Pete Wentz is like Harry Potter in my mind- a fictional character that is whomever the fangirls and boys what him to be loosely based on things they read about him. That makes it easy for me to be rationalize a 30 year old man hanging out with a 15 year old girl. Obviously this isn't real life. Except omg it is. I did see the squick in this vid because I've always pointed out that he was a 23 year old man writing intensely sexual and violent "poetry" about a 15 year old girl. Um...Why is everyone so okay with that? No. No thank you.

It's just wild how teen mags make him like sexiest person on earth for their target audience of 14 year olds and then America wonders why teens are getting pregnant all the time? Then look at Miley who is their "bad girl/fun girl" role model because she is seen as a girl who embraces her sexuality and likes (*if you believe perezhilton.com and other celblogs/tabloids) older men watching her and everyone's scratching their heads trying to figure out where pedophilia comes from. They create their own monsters.

But um yeah keep churning out those teen!Patrick/college!Pete bandom. That I don't mind so much. (woah sorry to go all tl;dr on your journal)

[identity profile] rosiedoes.livejournal.com 2008-08-03 12:12 am (UTC)(link)
Hahaha. No, I'm glad someone kind of seems why I cringe at it.

[identity profile] flexible-k.livejournal.com 2008-08-03 12:17 am (UTC)(link)
I don't know Pete is gross in real life. Probably. I don't know him; we're not friends. Would you ever date a 17 year old at your age. Like can you see yourself falling in love? What would you talk about?

[identity profile] rosiedoes.livejournal.com 2008-08-03 12:18 am (UTC)(link)
Srsly, dude.

I knew guys who thought it was weird to date a 15 year old when they were 17.

[identity profile] flexible-k.livejournal.com 2008-08-03 12:20 am (UTC)(link)
Wow I should read what I've written before I hit reply. I swear my English and grammar are both better than the former posts imply.

[identity profile] rosiedoes.livejournal.com 2008-08-03 12:22 am (UTC)(link)
Haha. Don't worry about it.

serious business

[identity profile] ashe-frost.livejournal.com 2008-08-03 12:19 am (UTC)(link)
Pedophilia deals with prepubescent boys or girls. So I mean. I don't see anything wrong with men fantasizing about girls who look like women. Because Miley looks about 19. It's just actually doing something about it that's the issue. But if adults fantasize about children who look like children.. That's completely different.

IDK. Random thought. I discuss this a lot. And sexuality in the media and those "until she turns 18" countdowns and parenting vs. the media and why America's youth has gone wrong etc.

Re: serious business

[identity profile] flexible-k.livejournal.com 2008-08-03 12:25 am (UTC)(link)
Okay, I get what you mean. That was the wrong choice of words. But I do think that the media brings sexuality of girls to the forefront at too early an age. I do think it's weird that girls are never shown boys their own age as sexual. But I guess that has to do more with development speeds than anything else maybe? IDK. I think about this all the time. Tell me your views.

Re: serious business

[identity profile] rosiedoes.livejournal.com 2008-08-03 12:31 am (UTC)(link)
I totally agree with you there.

I've been really uncomfortable with the way young girls are portrayed ever since the Spice Girls were out and they were making leopard print miniskirts and heels for five year olds.

It really creeps me out, because the cliche that a paedophile's excuse is always "but she looked older" is given more and more validity all the time. Seriously: thongs for seven year olds? How fucked up is that? You can't justify paedophilia, but we're hardly discouraging it in the way we present little girls in particular, are we?

Re: serious business

[identity profile] flexible-k.livejournal.com 2008-08-03 12:40 am (UTC)(link)
thongs for seven year olds O.O What?

See in my culture 18 is not some magic number that makes you a Man/Woman. You don't get kicked out of the house, you don't get to live your own way anymoreso than ususal. You are still a child, who just happens to have lived for 18 years.

My cousin is 8 and stayed with us for the summer. Half her wardrobe consisted of backless/strapless/one strap tank tops. Yes it's hot, but seriously? Don't get me started on her shorts. Her mother is ...

Re: serious business

[identity profile] rosiedoes.livejournal.com 2008-08-03 12:46 am (UTC)(link)
Yep. We have those over here. And heels in kids sizes.

Re: serious business

[identity profile] ashe-frost.livejournal.com 2008-08-03 12:58 am (UTC)(link)
The disturbing thing is how many women come in Stride Rite asking if we have heels for their four year olds.

Like, "Oh! She wants to have shoes like mommy!"

To which I have never replied, "Does she want crabs like mommy, too?"

I think there's a buffer for short skirts and shorts. They're cute on babies. About age of four, your kid isn't a baby anymore and other little kids are going to notice and parents are going to be scandalized. So buy the shorts a little bit longer.

It's about the age that kids need to stop running around their brothers and sisters naked.

Re: serious business

[identity profile] rosiedoes.livejournal.com 2008-08-03 01:01 am (UTC)(link)
I feel really awkward about anybody naked. Especially me.

Re: serious business

[identity profile] ashe-frost.livejournal.com 2008-08-03 01:03 am (UTC)(link)
It's different when you spend a lot of time cleaning diaper mess off of kids. And bathing them. It is awkward at first. Well. Sort of. I guess I have a really strange and uncharacteristic maternal instinct.

Re: serious business

[identity profile] rosiedoes.livejournal.com 2008-08-03 01:04 am (UTC)(link)
I have none whatsoever. None. I find it weird being around kids at all.

Re: serious business

[identity profile] ashe-frost.livejournal.com 2008-08-03 01:07 am (UTC)(link)
Some people don't. I honestly wish I didn't because children are fucking annoying. It's the first day of my period and every part of my body hurts but there's no day care so I've spent all day with the kids, trying to clean my mother's house and they keep asking ridiculous questions and demanding to be held and fed and I can't curse in front of them so I've been silently wishing my ovaries would shrivel up for more than one reason and also maybe that I had a sedative. But even if I did I couldn't take it because then who would watch the children?

Re: serious business

[identity profile] rosiedoes.livejournal.com 2008-08-03 01:09 am (UTC)(link)
Ow. No fun. I simply wouldn't have the patience.

Re: serious business

[identity profile] flexible-k.livejournal.com 2008-08-03 01:10 am (UTC)(link)
haha Same here.

Re: serious business

[identity profile] ashe-frost.livejournal.com 2008-08-03 12:52 am (UTC)(link)

I think in the long run it's mostly an idea of the fact that we're hooked on stories of prince charming before we reach our sexual maturity mixed with the fact that girls mature faster than boys mixed with the fact that the idea of the sexuality of girls is taboo because it's desireable to men so it's often repressed so girls get the idea that they can't be sexual unless they're a woman, and even then sex will be had in an objectifying manner which involves having a perfect body and being on display, but none of that will matter because a real man can make you feel like a woman.