rosiedoes: (FOB: STFU)
Rosie ([personal profile] rosiedoes) wrote2008-04-23 11:57 pm

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Now, Pete Wentz. I slag off the guy a lot. I do, and I know that.

But fucking hell. I am SO. SICK. AND. TIRED. of people slagging off him and Ashlee and wishing that he was still an emotional wreck.

In particular, [livejournal.com profile] truefobinglove has an article about how he's grown up, he's not on the meds anymore, and how he has changed as a person. And the first comment?

The ever-intelligent [livejournal.com profile] kooku4u:

blah blah blah ashlee depression happniess blah.

dude stfu.


She then goes on to try to defend her position, and fails with:

and i don't not believe skimming the article and realizing it is nothing that interests me qualifies as a pissy fit.

Because 'telling' the guy to shut the fuck up because he happens to talk about his actual life as it is now, rather than how it was three years ago, in an interview is the epitome of tact and diplomacy.

You know what? Hating the fact that - for what seems like the first time in his life - the guy is to some extent ACTUALLY HAPPY, is unimaginably pathetic. Hating the fact that in interviews he gets asked about Ashlee, instead of about Jeanae, is a waste of energy and without any comprehension or foresight whatsoever. If they go ahead with this marriage, and it sounds like they will, you will be hearing about it for a long time to come. It will be a big part of what their future lyrics will be about, you can be pretty sure of that. So the best idea, right now, is to just fucking accept it - or go and listen to Panic at the Disco. Ashlee, in her relationship with Pete, seems to have done nothing at all to make the fans believe that she is going to hurt, demean or in anyway have a detrimental effect on his wellbeing. Yes, together they may be a publicity machine, and no, I don't much like that either, but I am SO. FUCKING. TIRED. of people having to find fault and feeling that it's their right and their place to drive some imaginary wedge between them.

The greatest irony is that the same person who will bitch incessantly about Ashlee is the same person who insisted on defending Patrick's girlfriend when she did actually do something humiliating and childish (interrupting him, trying to get him off the phone and loudly announcing they were 'leaving, now' DURING A RADIO INTERVIEW THAT WAS POSTED ONLINE BY THE STATION!).

How about you guys who feel such a sense of authority and entitlement over Pete's relationship STFU, instead of telling Pete to because a journalist asks him about his life in an interview?

The day she humiliates him in public you might have some foundation for it, but until then, just stop, for the love of fuck. Either accept who he is now and who he's with, or move on; either ignore the article and don't comment, or read it and deal with the content.


"The thing that gets me is when people get nostalgic for that person. They come up and say, 'Pete, you've changed. We miss the old you.' Four years ago, I would have put a bullet in my head. Do you really want that person back? He wasn't that great a person."



Right now? You're one of those people.

[identity profile] slate-and-lead.livejournal.com 2008-04-23 11:38 pm (UTC)(link)
"'The thing that gets me is when people get nostalgic for that person. They come up and say, 'Pete, you've changed. We miss the old you.' Four years ago, I would have put a bullet in my head. Do you really want that person back? He wasn't that great a person.'



Right now? You're one of those people."





That's exactly what I was thinking.

[identity profile] rosiedoes.livejournal.com 2008-04-23 11:42 pm (UTC)(link)
Unfortunately, some people are too stupid to comprehend that.

[identity profile] moondarri.livejournal.com 2008-04-23 11:57 pm (UTC)(link)
ps my last lj post was posted just before i saw this, so it was actually unrelated, but it just emphasises the point. also, general sentiment not directed at you, but at this sort of shit that goes on when people just can't grow up & let go.

[identity profile] rosiedoes.livejournal.com 2008-04-23 11:58 pm (UTC)(link)
I haven't even seen your post, dude.

[identity profile] moondarri.livejournal.com 2008-04-24 12:01 am (UTC)(link)
just saying, in case you did, & thought i was insinuating something in your direction. which i wasn't. just feeling tired of fandom lately.

[identity profile] rosiedoes.livejournal.com 2008-04-24 12:03 am (UTC)(link)
Haha. Yeah, fandom pisses me off pretty hardcore.

[identity profile] anjak-j.livejournal.com 2008-04-24 12:08 am (UTC)(link)
Today in fandom:

People just can't stop saying skeevy shit.

It's fucking disturbing how many times my brain has been bent by people saying scary stuff today.

In short, I agree with you.

[identity profile] rosiedoes.livejournal.com 2008-04-24 12:12 am (UTC)(link)
Fans are fucking arseholes, for the most part.

[identity profile] grapefruits.livejournal.com 2008-04-24 12:16 am (UTC)(link)
I agree with this. I haven't read the article yet, but I don't mind to hear about his relationship with Ashlee, I pretty much expect it at this point, no getting around it. I think they're good together, because he does seem happier and it actually shows.
And it really irritates me when people say, "I miss the old Pete." Why would you wish unhappiness on someone? How is that helpful? A friend of mine actually said, "I don't think FOB's new record will be good, because it'll be too happy." I was floored.

I don't know what to say about Patrick's girlfriend. I mean, she was just plain rude during that interview, but other than that, I know nothing about her. She gives me a bit of a bad vibe, to be honest, which really sucks.

[identity profile] rosiedoes.livejournal.com 2008-04-24 12:19 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah - Nerysa and I are just discussing it. It's funny how many people have said lately that she gives them a bad vibe - even before this radio thing.

And the weird thing is, everyone really wants Patrick to be happy - most people were really excited for him when she first appeared - but as time goes on the more sceptical people become.

I'm just really sick of fans thinking these guys are Sims or something.

[identity profile] grapefruits.livejournal.com 2008-04-24 12:23 am (UTC)(link)
I really do hope he's happy, I wish him all the best. Perhaps she isn't like that all the time and it was a bad day, but it was still a horrible thing to do.

Haha, you know if they were Sims they wouldn't have girlfriends at all.

[identity profile] rosiedoes.livejournal.com 2008-04-24 12:26 am (UTC)(link)
I made Sims of them. Patrick and Joe hate each other.

I ended up deleting the games. :|

But yeah - I want him to be the happiest little bunny-suit-wearing ball of adorable on the face of the planet, but I can't help but feel that this girl is riding his coat tails.

[identity profile] grapefruits.livejournal.com 2008-04-24 12:31 am (UTC)(link)
Well, they were no fun. I had to delete it off my computer, because it was slowing it down so bad. I still miss it, that game is so much fun.

Yeah, I sadly kind of get that feeling, too, and I don't want it.

[identity profile] rosiedoes.livejournal.com 2008-04-24 12:32 am (UTC)(link)
Poor Patrick. I'm polishing my pitchfork, just in case.

[identity profile] alternatending.livejournal.com 2008-04-24 01:16 am (UTC)(link)
*tackles, snuggles*

Rosie, SEE, girl, THIS IS WHY I LOVE YOU.

*stands behind with big gun* ANYONE WANNA MESS WITH HER, YOU'LL HAVE TO GO THROUGH ME.

[identity profile] alternatending.livejournal.com 2008-04-24 01:26 am (UTC)(link)
I A W T C.

Dude, it's so weird.

The bad vibes keep getting stronger and stronger.

[identity profile] rosiedoes.livejournal.com 2008-04-24 01:28 am (UTC)(link)
Hahaha. Thanks, hon.

We need to create an army of sane fans. Smacking down the morons.

[identity profile] xxtaste-of-ink.livejournal.com 2008-04-24 01:28 am (UTC)(link)
That last quote just completely breaks my heart.
It's so great to see he's happy, but from a musical standpoint we'll probably never get lyrics like TTYG again. Granted, this may or may not be an amazing revolution/growth in the band but it's like, these things happen. People should be allowed to grow up and live their lives.
Oh god, that thing with Patrick's girlfriend even made ME feel embarrassed. :/

[identity profile] rosiedoes.livejournal.com 2008-04-24 01:28 am (UTC)(link)
*Googles how to make a petrol bomb*

[identity profile] alternatending.livejournal.com 2008-04-24 01:30 am (UTC)(link)
I'm down.

Really.

We can be the...the...

Uhm ...



...



*thinks*





primadonnas of the gutter? LOL.

Just KIDDING. XD

[identity profile] alternatending.livejournal.com 2008-04-24 01:30 am (UTC)(link)
Totally know where to put it too. ;D


Don't ask how. SRSLY. It was an accident..
ext_10404: (btvs not impressed (from_time))

[identity profile] purelush.livejournal.com 2008-04-24 01:33 am (UTC)(link)
That is exactly why I hate this celebrity culture/worship thing we've got going on now a days. We do not own these people, just because we buy their albums. If they want to make country records and marry a 50 year old woman, they can do that. We don't have to like it, we don't have to buy their albums, but really?

It's still their lives. They can live them however they want. Because, they're people too, you know. Not just pretty sparklies on TV.

[identity profile] rosiedoes.livejournal.com 2008-04-24 01:34 am (UTC)(link)
Until the divorce. Sorry.

But yeah. The band is going to keep changing as they grow up more and we just have to get used to that or get used to the idea of drifting away from them. If what Joe has said about the new album is true, then it's probably going to be awesome - even if the lyrics aren't all, "OMG I HATE U DIAF BIATCH!!11!!"

As for Elisa. Just thinking of her makes me foam at the mouth, right now... *foams*

[identity profile] rosiedoes.livejournal.com 2008-04-24 01:36 am (UTC)(link)
I totally agree, dude. I refuse to follow the gossip and shit on websites like Perez. But on the other hand, when I can't help feeling Patrick's girlfriend has less than pure motives, I feel protective of him.

It's a fine line with this fandom, because the boys in it interact with us so much, but some people's behaviour is downright unacceptable.

[identity profile] rosiedoes.livejournal.com 2008-04-24 01:37 am (UTC)(link)
Hahahaha.

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