I'm listening to FUCT in its entirity for the first time in weeks (my MP3player is usually on random) and God, it's depressing how much I loved when they sounded like this.
Okay, so, you don't like IOH and you don't like FUCT either? I'm not entirely sure what, beyond the continuing awesome that is Trohman, is sustaining your fandom here...
Dude, no, I wasn't giving you attitude. :/ I obviously misread what you said as like, regret that you loved it so much, and was just... curious, kinda? That curiosity has nothing to do with how much YOU like THIS band or not... it's actually more of a personal quest to figure out what keeps ANY person in a fandom when they don't necessarily feel attached to the new music, and what sustains someone through an album without wandering away... like I did.
Up until a year or two ago, I was still reasonably active in the Hanson fandom, but I just didn't care, at all, about the new album when I heard it. It wasn't my taste remotely and I was bored with it, and they weren't particularly interesting as people to me anymore now that they're all married and dads. So I dropped out. I barely talk to any of my friends in that fandom (a lot of them have moved on as well) and while I still hold their other albums dear to my heart, I can't see myself ever really going back. I missed their first tour ever this month, in favor of multiple Cobra shows in January. I just couldn't spend the money to travel to see music I didn't really love.
So, yeah, I just wonder how people like you who aren't so much into IOH keep the love alive, is all. I guess it's different with a band like FOB who just continue to be interesting regardless of what the music sounds like today. Aaaand I'm ranting, kinda.
Okay, sorry if I misinterpreted that, but I've had people say the same thing before and it really pisses me off.
I stay in this fandom because a) I still love three members of this band like old friends, and I'd still do pretty much anything to defend them when I feel they deserve it; I also really want to love that midget with the teeth as well, and I'm hoping that one day the behaviour that has seen me lose so much faith in him will be snapped out of (even if the things I hear about the Good Old Days from the people who were actually there make me wonder if he was ever the person I/we/he liked to think he was). B) I love the music and FUCT is one of those albums in life that I can listen to continually for days and never get sick of and because my favourite FOB song of all time is on TTTYG (...Liars & Fakes) and one really shitty album doesn't mean that every album from now on is going to suck monkey balls; c) then there's bandom. I love the fiction (what exists of it) and I love writing it - I'm not going to give that up because of one shitty album, either.
The thing is, when I'm into a band - especially one as accessible as this one - I love them like I do my BFFs (that's not to say I actually think they're my mates - I'm not that crazy - I just love the kids in the same way) and I'm far, far too loyal to the people I care about to give up on them that easily. I might give them a verbal smack in the mouth when I see them doing things that I know are beneath them - that do them a disservice - but it's only because I want them to be as awesome as I know they can be and not fuck themselves over or act like wankers (I mean seriously, ask ashe_frost all about that - I love no one in the world more than that crazy person, but I've bitched her out hardcore for things before; just as she has me).
After IOH came out, fadefromblack and I spent many, many hours discussing why this wasn't a reason to totally lose faith in these kids. It isn't - hopefully - How Fall Out Boy Are Going To Sound Forevermore - it's a step in time. Hopefully, the next album will be totally different (and hopefully, in a really good way). But FUCT was the album that reeled me in and made me change the entire way I was living my life. I still don't know why - it certainly wasn't the lyrics being something I could relate to - but that album gives me chills; in an especially odd way, it kind of reminds me who I am.
I just wish that we hadn't had to go through (what I consider) such a bad patch straight after it. For me, IOH is kind of embarrassing. It smacks of trying too hard, for me and I don't honestly believe that half the band had much input at all. I don't believe that that is music that either Joe or Andy really want to make, and that makes me sad. Kudos to them for supporting their friend so much, but I just don't believe it (and I recently heard rumours stating that in fact Patrick is the only one who is genuinely proud of that album).
I'm really hoping that now Patrick has gotten this 'proving himself' (which he's said himself he had to do) out of his system, both via IOH and the collabs, we can get rid of all the bells and whistles and strip it back down to the Fall Out Boy most of us fell in love with. Because this right now? This isn't Fall Out Boy. It's Fall Out Boy Does Broadway.
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on 2007-12-10 03:23 pm (UTC)no subject
on 2007-12-10 03:42 pm (UTC)It's actually one of my favourite things in the world ever. I wish they still sounded like this.
But y'know, if that's your attitude, I can't say I'm that sure I want you around.
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on 2007-12-10 04:11 pm (UTC)Up until a year or two ago, I was still reasonably active in the Hanson fandom, but I just didn't care, at all, about the new album when I heard it. It wasn't my taste remotely and I was bored with it, and they weren't particularly interesting as people to me anymore now that they're all married and dads. So I dropped out. I barely talk to any of my friends in that fandom (a lot of them have moved on as well) and while I still hold their other albums dear to my heart, I can't see myself ever really going back. I missed their first tour ever this month, in favor of multiple Cobra shows in January. I just couldn't spend the money to travel to see music I didn't really love.
So, yeah, I just wonder how people like you who aren't so much into IOH keep the love alive, is all. I guess it's different with a band like FOB who just continue to be interesting regardless of what the music sounds like today. Aaaand I'm ranting, kinda.
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on 2007-12-10 06:52 pm (UTC)I stay in this fandom because a) I still love three members of this band like old friends, and I'd still do pretty much anything to defend them when I feel they deserve it; I also really want to love that midget with the teeth as well, and I'm hoping that one day the behaviour that has seen me lose so much faith in him will be snapped out of (even if the things I hear about the Good Old Days from the people who were actually there make me wonder if he was ever the person I/we/he liked to think he was). B) I love the music and FUCT is one of those albums in life that I can listen to continually for days and never get sick of and because my favourite FOB song of all time is on TTTYG (...Liars & Fakes) and one really shitty album doesn't mean that every album from now on is going to suck monkey balls; c) then there's bandom. I love the fiction (what exists of it) and I love writing it - I'm not going to give that up because of one shitty album, either.
The thing is, when I'm into a band - especially one as accessible as this one - I love them like I do my BFFs (that's not to say I actually think they're my mates - I'm not that crazy - I just love the kids in the same way) and I'm far, far too loyal to the people I care about to give up on them that easily. I might give them a verbal smack in the mouth when I see them doing things that I know are beneath them - that do them a disservice - but it's only because I want them to be as awesome as I know they can be and not fuck themselves over or act like wankers (I mean seriously, ask
After IOH came out,
I just wish that we hadn't had to go through (what I consider) such a bad patch straight after it. For me, IOH is kind of embarrassing. It smacks of trying too hard, for me and I don't honestly believe that half the band had much input at all. I don't believe that that is music that either Joe or Andy really want to make, and that makes me sad. Kudos to them for supporting their friend so much, but I just don't believe it (and I recently heard rumours stating that in fact Patrick is the only one who is genuinely proud of that album).
I'm really hoping that now Patrick has gotten this 'proving himself' (which he's said himself he had to do) out of his system, both via IOH and the collabs, we can get rid of all the bells and whistles and strip it back down to the Fall Out Boy most of us fell in love with. Because this right now? This isn't Fall Out Boy. It's Fall Out Boy Does Broadway.
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on 2007-12-10 08:13 pm (UTC)no subject
on 2007-12-12 08:09 pm (UTC)