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[rosiedoes]

People seem to fail to understand this, so I'll make it clear:

MUTUAL FRIENDS CAN SEE YOUR UNLOCKED RESPONSES ON THEIR HOME PAGE ON TWITTER.

This means if you are on my flist and you reply to someone else on my flist I will see both of your messages.

And this includes spoiler conversations. At the moment there are major dramas in one comic universe, which I luckily do not follow - but if I was a reader I would have lynched two of my Twitterflist for their comments tonight.

I had HP5 spoiled for me when it came out and it is neither funny, nor fair, to ruin people's enjoyment of something they have been waiting for, because of your own need to yell about it from the rooftops. Or touchpad.

Have some consideration, people.

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[jedi-iwakura.livejournal.com]

You could also have some consideration by calling me out personally instead of passively. :)

And I'll apologize, but it's not going to make anyone unread it. :C

[rosiedoes.livejournal.com]

I called you out immediately after I said it to Sheila. Your first post was ominous, but people had a choice to click the link - hers stated exactly what happened. That's why I called her out first.

It's a douchebag thing to do and you should try to be less blase about your complete thoughtlessness.

[jedi-iwakura.livejournal.com]

No no no, I meant call me out by name instead of using this passive agressive "people" shit. :) That's all.

Also, there are things I might not like that you do, though my thoughtlessness is not so bad enough that I'd actually mention them to you. But none of them are news, so. Oh well.

Fun having you around. :D

[rosiedoes.livejournal.com]

I said "people" because "people" do it all the time and you are not the centre of the universe. It was just you and Sheila that prompted the reminder on this occasion.

You can honestly say what you want to say about me and my character, I don't care, you know that, but I knew straight away that you'd remove me as a maintainer from sunshine_corps, because you can't distinguish between something being about you, and something being about the greater need of bandom.

I don't have to be your friend to be involved in a project I've largely driven since it was started. If you don't do this properly, you're just going to make the OCKs look even weaker in the eyes of AA and Crush, and that really concerns me.

[jedi-iwakura.livejournal.com]

I may not be the center of the universe but I seem to be the center of this problem you're having. :) If you don't want to single me out as such, that's fine. I should figure it's only you trying to be the better person here.

No, I mostly took you off because I've had communities commandeered from me before. I'm going to be completely honest and say that there are several places on the internet that you DO have moderate control over, and while you may have the charisma to push things forward and invite a sense of urgency, this can't be one. It shouldn't be any skin off of your nose, right? If you want to talk about the greater good of bandom you might try to abandon petty things like defriending over irrelevant principles.

You're right in saying you don't have to be my friend to spearhead a goal, but you don't have to be a driving force, either. You're still a moderator and when you've decided to let this stupid thing go I'd be more than happy to have you back. Your 'concern' is nothing more than a shot at my own abilities, and I see this as nothing more than an insult. I'm not going to hold you down and make you say "Elena is the best" but I'm not going to put up with your callous behavior towards me and my methods, either. Drag your feet all you'd like, I do appreciate what you've done so far, and that isn't going to change.

This is not a plea for sugarcoating nor is it a declaration of omg!war, but seriously, if me putting my foot down on my own personal behavior and opinions and set ways is any different than you putting yours down and proclaiming them, then I fail to see why it's such a big deal to you to be on the high road.

:) Have a good one.

[rosiedoes.livejournal.com]

All I received was an email telling me I'd been removed as a maintainer - to the best of my knowledge, that's all I ever was, so you'll have to excuse me for thinking that I'd been removed altogether in a pissy fit.

Never mind your frankly childish "Also, there are things I might not like that you do, though my thoughtlessness is not so bad enough that I'd actually mention them to you. But none of them are news, so. Oh well." line. I actually laughed at that, you know - because you filled your comment with little smileys while making petty, bitchy comments that you obviously thought were veiled.

I would NEVER steal a community from someone, and I completely resent the implication that you believe I would (despite the fact that I came up with the name and helped you launch the damn thing in the first place, designed it, created the icon and banner, made the initial posts to get it up and running and tried to make contact with AA to get their stance on it - even when you wouldn't respond to my requests to get on IM so we could work on it further).

This is a big deal to me because it's something I fiercely believe needs doing and I have put a lot of work into. It's something that bandom needs doing and no, I don't believe you can do it by youself. Which is why I agreed to help you in the first place - because it needs to be done and it needs to be done properly to save it becoming a joke and making the OCKs at large look like tantruming kids. It's not about you and it's not about me, it's about getting everyone a fair deal; can you not understand that?

To me, it seems like you are just butthurt that I am angry enough with you over the selfishness of your behaviour to want to defriend you. You refuse to accept that your actions have the potential to really and truly ruin someone's enjoyment of a comic they may have been reading for years. I'm not "taking the high road" I'm genuinely fucking furious that you did that and won't accept that it was thoughtless and unfair on the people you presumably think of as friends on Twitter.

If you had done that to me when I was reading X-Men comics I would have hunted you down and skinned you alive. You refuse to understand that just because you were spoiled and are mostly indifferent that you can have ruined it for someone else. It's that small-minded, self-centred attitude that pisses me off. You've actually been on thin ice with me since the election night thing and this was really and truly the icing on the cake.

So this "stupid little thing" you're talking about is neither stupid, nor little. It's based on your inability to understand or care that you can ruin other people's enjoyment of something, being too proud to really admit that you were in the wrong and your increasing displays of immaturity. What you call "pandering" I call "being sincere in an apology".

My "principles" state that you do not wilfully ruin someone else's enjoyment of a hobby through your own selfishness. And if you do, inadvertantly, expose people to something of that nature, you take steps to apologise and rectify the situation. You do not let pride and stubborness risk further friends' enjoyment. You just don't.

Now, it's 6.30am and I'm going to bed. I'm not going to beg you to make me a maintainer again - do what you want - but I have nothing to apologise for, aside from assuming you had removed me altogether, because I meant everything I said.

[jedi-iwakura.livejournal.com]

You should heed it, as well, I suppose.

[rosiedoes.livejournal.com]

Heed what?

[byabsence.livejournal.com]

Yeah, sorry about that. I actually haven't read the series in a while (I haven't had the money in a long time) and to me I wasn't aware that it was a spoiler. The article seemed like an "after the fact one", since I was just skimming it on my phone. It was actually after you did call me out on it that I even thought about it being a spoiler (I deleted the twits that blatantly said it afterwards).

On top of that I was pretty sure (maybe around 95%) the I was the only person who cared at all on my twitter about the whole thing who didn't already know. Me twittering about it was more like... me telling people who has no idea who Pete Wentz is that he named his kid Bronx Mowgli. To which I figured my friends would go, "Aw, sucks." and not really care that much because everyone who cared already knew.

I really don't go out of my way to spoil things for people, so I'm just going to admit to my bad on this because I see your point completely and agree with you on top of that. But at the same time using that wording seems a little unfair. I'm not trying to argue with you at all, so I hope it doesn't come off as that at all but it wasn't a matter of me not having consideration for my friends, just an awareness (or perhaps unawareness) of who I am friends with and where their interests lie coupled with a little bit of ignorance being a factor as well.

Sorry again though.

[rosiedoes.livejournal.com]

You are not the first to do this. Which is why it is directed at "people" - you are just the latest in a long line of people fucking up and spoiling things.

It drives me insane. Even if the article came out a week ago, there may still be people who haven't had a chance to read it, yet. It's just about thinking, "Wait - would I want to hear this before I saw it in the comic/film/book/show?" and giving it a wide berth for at least the first few weeks.

That's where the thoughtlessness is.

I'm not going to defriend you, dude - you obviously understand my point and that's cool; that's why you're still here. But just please try to think about stuff like that before you post it. Your friends aren't necessarily the only people who might happen to read your Tweets while that is on your homepage, you know?