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[rosiedoes]

So, Joe is understandably a bit pissed about the dude who won the Civic not keeping it. Therefore, all the FOB fans in the world are running around crying MARRY ME PEET! FOUL! FOUL! BURN THE HERETIC!

Now, I wish - as much as anyone else - that a genuine fan who would have loved it and called it Ryan George had won that car. It would have been a nice little awww moment, as some rich college brat won an unattractive motorvehicle signed by Pete Wentz, that fat dude and the two from the backing band. It would. Warm fuzzies, fluffy MySpace pooches and cupcakes all around.

But it wasn't. The guy who won it was a dude with a family who took his perfectly legitimate winnings, and exchanged them for something he could make better use of. Which to me, sounds like a reasonable idea. The car dealer he made the exchange with is now recouping the cost of the guy's chosen SUV in auctioning the Civic.

And the fans? The fans are absolutely appalled that neither of them donated the entire $30,000 to charity.

Yes, the kids think that by rights, this money belongs to charity.

I'm sorry, but no. A man had a stroke of luck, and he used his good fortune to his advantage. How do any of us know his financial situation? Maybe he was desperately in need of a new car for his five kids? I'm always being told that Americans REALLY, REALLY, HONESTLY NEED GIGANTIC GAS-GUZZLING MEGA-CARS, OKAY? because their public transport sucks. So maybe the win was a damn stroke of luck for him and his family.

So, if we assume for a minute that the guy now in possession of the car - the dealer, who has already parted with money in the shape of the SUV - is the person now responsible, do we expect him to give his entire earnings to charity? In the current US climate? Would you give away $30,000 to charity right now?


Don't get me wrong: I find it disappointing that someone who'd really appreciate the car didn't get to drive it away. But expecting someone - either of these guys - to give fairly and legitimately obtained revenue to charity just because everyone else is jealous that they didn't win (but wants Joe to like them by agreeing with him in his pissy mood) is plain ridiculous.

I believe that 95% of us would 'give it a go' in a competition, and if we won the prize we couldn't directly use, sell it on or profit from it however we legitimately could. The greatest sin this man has committed is possibly not appreciating the illegible silver sharpie on the doors. He probably never really expected to win. And how do any of us know that he didn't actually totally fucking love the car and wanted to keep it, but simply couldn't justify it when it provided an opportunity to provide a more practical form of transport for his kids?


I've said it before, and I'm sure I'll have reason to say it again, but so many of the kids who call themselves Fall Out Boy fans are nasty, self-centred, irrational little cunts. A lot of the people making wild, judgemental comments over there are adults.

Fucking hell.

Why do we have to share the planet with idiots?

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[rosiedoes.livejournal.com]

My point exactly. But because Joe is offended, everyone has to bitch the fuck about it.

It's pathetic.

[rosiedoes.livejournal.com]

Well, yes. Clearly.

[anjak-j.livejournal.com]

Yeah, I've never understood the reasoning behind bitching about competition winners selling what they've won. To me, fandom seems to infer that if you win something like this, it's not really your property to do what you want with, which is just such crap. You win, you own. And you get to do whatever the hell you want with the item and the profit if you sell. Simple. As.

[rosiedoes.livejournal.com]

Exactly. And y'know - I can see Joe being offended, he helped design it, it's got his name on it, but he's not telling everyone he should have donated it to charity.

Possibly because he's a (relatively) sane adult. And fuck, if it bothers him so much, he'd buy it and re-auction it for charity himself.

If it was just the fourteen year olds, I could excuse it, but there are moms saying this.

[in-full-being.livejournal.com]

I agree with you 1000%. Very well put!

[rosiedoes.livejournal.com]

IT MAKES ME SO MAD, MEGS!

[in-full-being.livejournal.com]

Honestly, if I had won it I probably would have sold it. And not because I wouldn't want it, but because I couldn't afford insurance on it and would rather someone have it that would enjoy it (those rich college students, as you mentioned!).

I really don't understand how people are so offended by it. He didn't wreck it, deface it, publicly speak bad about the car/FOB, he's just selling it because it's what he needs to do. You know half the fans whining couldn't have afforded it if they'd won themselves, and as for those moms who you say are responding, if they had won it who knows what they would have done? Not donated any money to charity, that's for sure.

Every person out there who's throwing a bitch fit can donate $10 to charity themselves and then the world will be happy and a better place :-D

[rosiedoes.livejournal.com]

God, if only the world ran on rational thought.

[sweetharet.livejournal.com]

I really thought a girl won that car because I remember seeing a video on youtube with the boys where a bunch of people were lined up and whoever had the keys that unlocked the car won it, so I don't know what that all was about *iz confused*
But, as for all the people saying the car should have been donated to charity, that's clearly ridiculous. The person won it fair and square, it's their choice what they do with it. Like you said, it would have been nice if a superfan won but they didn't. Joe has been very pissy lately, and I love that kid so I hope he's not really as down as he seems.

[rosiedoes.livejournal.com]

Rumours are that he's newly single. :( *pets*

Maybe that's it.

[in-full-being.livejournal.com]

Randomly jumping into your response, but I saw the same video and was under the impression that the woman in the video won a different regular Honda Civic because Honda was just doing another giveaway at one of the shows. The guy who won the FOB Honda Civic is the one who sold it.

[sweetharet.livejournal.com]

Ah, you're probably right. Thanks, I was wondering about that.

[edgiko.livejournal.com]

WUT R U TALKING ABOT?! WHATEVAR A BND MBER FEELZ, I MST FEEL 2!11 THRE FOR ME SMSH!!!!

I lost braincells trying to type like that.

If I were a band member, I'd be pissed too just a little. I mean, they all designed the freaking car and now someone is selling it? That would burn my ass.

But you know the way the US economy is going, chances are any of us in the US would sell the damn thing. Having to pay off a mortgage is more important than a car, no matter who help build the damn thing.

[rosiedoes.livejournal.com]

I totally agree. If you're part of making something, yeah, you have a right to feel offended if it's not appreciated because it's fugly.

But those brats are a whole new argument.

[edgiko.livejournal.com]

There's that too. XD
But yeah, they're just kids. They're really just sucking it up and kissing Joe's ass because it's cool. They really haven't thought out the fact heaven forbid this man needed another car and the current seller needed the money.

They're kids. They don't know how the world works yet. Once they do, they're understand that nothing grows on trees and that most things will be sold.

Though, kind of funny that the same people bid on clandestine clothes signed by Pete on ebay. Um..hypocrites much?

[rosiedoes.livejournal.com]

A lot of the most vocal ones are adults, dude.

[edgiko.livejournal.com]

..You're kidding me? Dude, sometimes I wonder if other adult FOB ever grow out of being stupid ass teenagers.

[hyperballad12.livejournal.com]

It reminds me off people who send letters to people who have won the lottery asking them for money...

People everywhere have their own financial debt everywhere or problems and these kids cant see it. Heck, if I had a chance at that much cash, I'd take it and as bad as me saying right now, I'm so fucking in debt I had thoughts of cancelling my chairty give out...

People rarely see past their noses and fail to recognise there own charitiy giving...

[rosiedoes.livejournal.com]

I know, dude. People are selfish, but sometimes you actually need to be to survive. If it upset Joe that much he could buy the car and re-auction it for IC. The kids are just saying what they think he wants to hear, and showing how jealous they are.

It's really fucking ridiculous.

[hyperballad12.livejournal.com]

Exactly These kids are whining but non of them actively get involved in charities nor do I doubt they donate regularly.....
It's like, trying to please the gods with human sacrifice.....All you are going to get is blood on your hands

if that makes sense....

[rosiedoes.livejournal.com]

Haha. Yeah, I know what you mean.

I actually have to go to bed now and try to curb my annoyance enough to sleep. :|

[hyperballad12.livejournal.com]

I was about to say the same thing!!
lol I am off to bed too
*hugs*
night
xxxx

[americancashito.livejournal.com]

That was without a doubt one of the most infuriating threads I've ever read. I don't even know where to start. The assumptions and the judgement just makes me angry. Everyone has debt and bills to pay and there are more important things in life than a car drawn on by a bunch of dudes that no one will probably care about in the next ten years.

I know if I won that car - FOB or no FOB fan - I would have sold that fucker and paid off my student debt and I would have kicked the crap out of any bitch who told me I should've donated that shit to charity.