Well, although there are straight edge 'gangs' out there, I personally only consider myself answerable to myself on issues like this. I think if I broke edge some of my friends would be pissed off with me, because it does feel like a betrayal - not just as a friend, but of all sense and logic; and a betrayal of one's own ideals.
Which is why I was so frustrated with Ellie.
Once you've looked at intoxicants or narcotics and thought, "Hell, no. I'm not touching that shit and doing that to myself!" to renedge on that feels so deeply illogical and frankly, really dumb. That's why I, and probably a lot of other straight edge people can be so militant about it. You want to see people you like and respect respect themselves and do the best by themselves, rather than running with the other rats and doing negative shit to themselves.
I do get really pissed off over peer pressure and those who don't even try to fight it. THAT is where I draw the line. I chewed my Dad out one of the last times I saw him since I turned 21. He bought me a drink because he could, and I refused to drink it. I didn't say I wanted a drink, and I was slightly appalled that he wanted me to drink just because I was of age.
My stepfather's in AA, so I tend to watch my own habits a little closer out of respect for him, and so does my Mom (and they've both stopped smoking, I'm really proud of them for that). I'll never drink to get smashed, I hate that feeling; I'm trying my best to not use it as an excuse to deal with my depression; and I'll probably stop eating fast food long before I completely cut out alcohol, but they're my choices, just as anyone else's. I live in a college town and go out almost every night for free shows at this one lounge and I just want to say that I can't EVER see myself equated to some of the people who get so tottered that they can't even enjoy their evening straightly--there IS such a thing as responsible drinking. :D
I'm not perfect and I have my vices but I feel on top of them and in control of them and can respect myself for that.
Well, that's your path. I'd like to see everyone - whether I know them or not - choosing a clean lifestyle, because it's ultimately better for them, but if you're managing it in moderation and that's how you're living your life I'm not going to stop you.
I still want to punch the stoners on my flist, though.
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on 2008-11-03 12:39 pm (UTC)Which is why I was so frustrated with Ellie.
Once you've looked at intoxicants or narcotics and thought, "Hell, no. I'm not touching that shit and doing that to myself!" to renedge on that feels so deeply illogical and frankly, really dumb. That's why I, and probably a lot of other straight edge people can be so militant about it. You want to see people you like and respect respect themselves and do the best by themselves, rather than running with the other rats and doing negative shit to themselves.
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on 2008-11-03 03:37 pm (UTC)I do get really pissed off over peer pressure and those who don't even try to fight it. THAT is where I draw the line. I chewed my Dad out one of the last times I saw him since I turned 21. He bought me a drink because he could, and I refused to drink it. I didn't say I wanted a drink, and I was slightly appalled that he wanted me to drink just because I was of age.
My stepfather's in AA, so I tend to watch my own habits a little closer out of respect for him, and so does my Mom (and they've both stopped smoking, I'm really proud of them for that). I'll never drink to get smashed, I hate that feeling; I'm trying my best to not use it as an excuse to deal with my depression; and I'll probably stop eating fast food long before I completely cut out alcohol, but they're my choices, just as anyone else's. I live in a college town and go out almost every night for free shows at this one lounge and I just want to say that I can't EVER see myself equated to some of the people who get so tottered that they can't even enjoy their evening straightly--there IS such a thing as responsible drinking. :D
I'm not perfect and I have my vices but I feel on top of them and in control of them and can respect myself for that.
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on 2008-11-03 03:41 pm (UTC)I still want to punch the stoners on my flist, though.
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on 2008-11-03 03:50 pm (UTC)Half-Baked is one of my favorite movies though. BUTTERNUTS.