Honestly, I'm not all that impressed with the album, and I've already listened to it 3 times. I'm hoping it'll grow on me, and maybe once I have the physical copy in my hands, it'll be different.
I'm glad I downloaded it though, I would have been disappointed if I'd waited to buy it when it came out.
Up to 27, it's alright. Not brilliant, but alright. Then after that track it just spirals into being pretty weak.
Patrick's little bluegrass thing is crap. I think it ruins the song. The fade out is too sudden, and then there's this bluegrass rubbish. I was like, "Whut? NO."
20 Dollar Nose Bleed just sounds like straight-up Panic, which I mean, yes, Brendon's on it, but it sounds like Patrick cameoing on a Panic song.
Ironically, because I expected to hate it, Weezy's bit is alright. It's one of the less shit moments on the album.
Andy is so excited over it and I just don't have the heart to tell him I don't like it much at all. I can already pick out the songs I'll always end up skipping.
I just don't know what to make of the album...I really don't. I mean, I love I Don't Care, but the rest of it I'm pretty indifferent to, and the more I hear What A Catch, Donnie the more I hate it.
I just...wow. I really wanted to like this album and I feel let down. I'm seeing all this squeeing on Twitter about it and I'm just thinking "Are we listening to the same album?" Or is it just that I'm not as invested in FOB anymore? IDK.
I think the problem is that a lot of FOB fans are more invested in the people than the music. Because it's FOB they love it; if another band did it, they'd be slagging them off no end.
Too much of it sounds like Panic, to me. It sounds like they've had these huge ideas and missed the mark. Someone once described the Manics as looking like they were trying to be The Clash in a school play, and that's how I feel about this album - it's aimed for something and not quite hit the mark. It's a bit, "Well, at least you tried, bless."
I categorically loathe What a Catch, Donnie. It sounds like Panic at the Disco wrote a musical and cast all of their friends in the finale. That song is the weakest point on the album.
So far, I only actively like 27 and Cooperstown. And that doesn't mean love, either. She's My Winona is alright. But all the best parts of a poor album are in the first half.
On FCF everyone is squeeing and telling Andy how amazing it is. And he's saying it's the one he's most proud of. But Pete said the same thing about IOH, and now he hates it.
I think this is one of the albums they'll look back on and grimace.
Wow, that's a harsh critique of the Manics. I agree with you though about being more invested in the band itself than in the music. For me, it was about the music first. I fell in love with FOB after hearing Arms Race, and I didn't discover Patrick until later.
IOH just got me through so much last year, and it's such a special album to me. I know you're not a fan, and that's totally cool, I respect that, but out of all of FOB's albums, Folie A Deux is the only one I can genuinely say I don't like. I don't think I'll be listening to this one much. I can listen to TTTYG and FUCT and IOH in their entirety and never tire of them but this? No. This one's gonna get filed with EOWYG for the CD I listen to the least. These ones won't rate high on my Last.fm playlist, that's for sure...
Poor Andy. I wouldn't have the heart to tell him I'm not feeling the album. :/
To be fair, the comment on the Manics was harsh, but fair at the time.
I don't have the heart to tell Andy how I feel about it, either. Not in detail. Maybe I will when the shine has rubbed off of the album, but not now. I think he'd take it really personally and I'm not going to set out to hurt someone's feelings.
27 is definitely the best song on this album; the Thin Lizzy-style solo is good, and the whole thing is the most stripped down track on the album. Less show-offy vocals, less over-produced. Generally much simpler and less pretentious than anything else on there.
There are links on mp3_share as well...that's where I got it from. I heard that ICH had it posted as a flocked post, but they don't have me friended so I can't see it, and apparently it got deleted so...
But yeah. It's out there. Torrent sites should have it now too.
And the thing is - everything you hate, I like about it. I think it's because we probably have a largely different taste in music. I like the bluegrass thing; it took me by surprise, but I love it, because I actually like that kind of music.
I totally got how "20 Dollar Nose Bleed" sounds a bit too much like Panic, but I thought the same thing about some songs on IOH, and I still loved them, so. *shrug*
I don't think it has anything to do with me being "more invested in the people than the music". I understand the way you feel; if they were to start delving into any of the genres I didn't like, then that would definitely be the album I didn't listen to. Also, I guess I haven't been a fan long enough to feel nostalgic over the way they used to sound, though I've gotta say - EOWYG and TTTYG are jointly my favourite Fall Out Boy albums, if it means anything.
I respect that you don't like it, and I totally understand why.
I think I'm rambling. =(
Anyway, I don't know if you'd care, but just because I want to get it out there, my favourite song is definitely "She's My Winona". =)
Yeah, 20 Dollar Nose Bleed wasn't my favorite either probably because it sounded too much like Panic. I'm not a fan of Panic's sound.
The blue grass thing was kind of random, I think, but in no means terrible. Just, very random.
I don't know. I liked the album. I liked the fact that they took the time to experiment with a lot of different songs and try some new things out. Sure, some of the songs weren't perfect but I love it. I love it for the evolving sound.
It isn't Sycamore Meadows, but its up there on my favorite albums of this year.
Everyone has different opinions on music, though. I can't see for the life of me why people liked Pretty. Odd. but people do.
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on 2008-12-07 03:06 pm (UTC)I'm glad I downloaded it though, I would have been disappointed if I'd waited to buy it when it came out.
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on 2008-12-07 03:11 pm (UTC)Up to 27, it's alright. Not brilliant, but alright. Then after that track it just spirals into being pretty weak.
Patrick's little bluegrass thing is crap. I think it ruins the song. The fade out is too sudden, and then there's this bluegrass rubbish. I was like, "Whut? NO."
20 Dollar Nose Bleed just sounds like straight-up Panic, which I mean, yes, Brendon's on it, but it sounds like Patrick cameoing on a Panic song.
Ironically, because I expected to hate it, Weezy's bit is alright. It's one of the less shit moments on the album.
Andy is so excited over it and I just don't have the heart to tell him I don't like it much at all. I can already pick out the songs I'll always end up skipping.
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on 2008-12-07 03:24 pm (UTC)I just...wow. I really wanted to like this album and I feel let down. I'm seeing all this squeeing on Twitter about it and I'm just thinking "Are we listening to the same album?" Or is it just that I'm not as invested in FOB anymore? IDK.
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on 2008-12-07 03:30 pm (UTC)Too much of it sounds like Panic, to me. It sounds like they've had these huge ideas and missed the mark. Someone once described the Manics as looking like they were trying to be The Clash in a school play, and that's how I feel about this album - it's aimed for something and not quite hit the mark. It's a bit, "Well, at least you tried, bless."
I categorically loathe What a Catch, Donnie. It sounds like Panic at the Disco wrote a musical and cast all of their friends in the finale. That song is the weakest point on the album.
So far, I only actively like 27 and Cooperstown. And that doesn't mean love, either. She's My Winona is alright. But all the best parts of a poor album are in the first half.
On FCF everyone is squeeing and telling Andy how amazing it is. And he's saying it's the one he's most proud of. But Pete said the same thing about IOH, and now he hates it.
I think this is one of the albums they'll look back on and grimace.
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on 2008-12-07 03:43 pm (UTC)IOH just got me through so much last year, and it's such a special album to me. I know you're not a fan, and that's totally cool, I respect that, but out of all of FOB's albums, Folie A Deux is the only one I can genuinely say I don't like. I don't think I'll be listening to this one much. I can listen to TTTYG and FUCT and IOH in their entirety and never tire of them but this? No. This one's gonna get filed with EOWYG for the CD I listen to the least. These ones won't rate high on my Last.fm playlist, that's for sure...
Poor Andy. I wouldn't have the heart to tell him I'm not feeling the album. :/
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on 2008-12-07 03:49 pm (UTC)I don't have the heart to tell Andy how I feel about it, either. Not in detail. Maybe I will when the shine has rubbed off of the album, but not now. I think he'd take it really personally and I'm not going to set out to hurt someone's feelings.
27 is definitely the best song on this album; the Thin Lizzy-style solo is good, and the whole thing is the most stripped down track on the album. Less show-offy vocals, less over-produced. Generally much simpler and less pretentious than anything else on there.
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on 2008-12-07 03:21 pm (UTC)Too much Patrick. Way too much.
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on 2008-12-07 03:24 pm (UTC)I think some of these songs will be better live than on CD because they'll be more stripped down.
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on 2008-12-07 03:20 pm (UTC)But yeah. It's out there. Torrent sites should have it now too.
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on 2008-12-07 04:05 pm (UTC)And the thing is - everything you hate, I like about it. I think it's because we probably have a largely different taste in music. I like the bluegrass thing; it took me by surprise, but I love it, because I actually like that kind of music.
I totally got how "20 Dollar Nose Bleed" sounds a bit too much like Panic, but I thought the same thing about some songs on IOH, and I still loved them, so. *shrug*
I don't think it has anything to do with me being "more invested in the people than the music". I understand the way you feel; if they were to start delving into any of the genres I didn't like, then that would definitely be the album I didn't listen to. Also, I guess I haven't been a fan long enough to feel nostalgic over the way they used to sound, though I've gotta say - EOWYG and TTTYG are jointly my favourite Fall Out Boy albums, if it means anything.
I respect that you don't like it, and I totally understand why.
I think I'm rambling. =(
Anyway, I don't know if you'd care, but just because I want to get it out there, my favourite song is definitely "She's My Winona". =)
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on 2008-12-07 07:42 pm (UTC)The blue grass thing was kind of random, I think, but in no means terrible. Just, very random.
I don't know. I liked the album. I liked the fact that they took the time to experiment with a lot of different songs and try some new things out. Sure, some of the songs weren't perfect but I love it. I love it for the evolving sound.
It isn't Sycamore Meadows, but its up there on my favorite albums of this year.
Everyone has different opinions on music, though. I can't see for the life of me why people liked Pretty. Odd. but people do.