Sadface.

Wednesday, 7 January 2009 03:30 am
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Talking with Hurley, you get the impression that he’s completely content to play the drums and go home to his Boca Burgers and Alan Moore comics. Joe Trohman, on the other hand, wants to do more. “I do feel left out a lot,” the guitarist says. At 24, he’s the youngest of the Fall Out boys, and he plays the role of kid brother well—splurging on old Nintendo games and $500 Storm Trooper figurines, finding funny YouTube videos for the guys to watch (latest favorite: “Chimpanzee Riding a Segway”). If Fall Out Boy were the Ninja Turtles, Wentz would be Leonardo, Stump would be Donatello, Hurley would be Raphael, and Trohman, all agree, would be Michelangelo—the “party dude.” “Joe is a free spirit,” Stump says. “He’s kind of just off in Joe Land, which is an awesome place to be.”

To hear Trohman tell it, though, Joe Land isn’t always so awesome. “It does get frustrating, not being able to contribute,” Trohman says. “I mean, to be labeled a background guy, someone who’s just along for the ride—it’s hard. I started Fall Out Boy, you know?” He wrote a few songs for the new album, but they were all cut at the last minute. “It’s kind of a bummer, to work so hard and have it come to nothing. I don’t want to sound like I’m bashing anyone, or I’m ungrateful,” he stresses. “Because I’m very happy to be a part of all this. I’m afraid the guys are gonna read this and wish I’d talked to them first—which maybe I should have. But sometimes it doesn’t feel like I’m even in the band.”


-- Blender


The next line after Joe's statement is, "Pete Wentz doesn’t Google himself anymore."

On [livejournal.com profile] truefobinglove of the first four comments, mine is the only one which references the fact that Joe feels completely underappreciated and superfluous in his own band.

That poor kid. I just want to hug him, right now. I mean, I always do, and this is generally pretty much the reason - because I've been saying since IOH came out, more or less, that it seemed like consciously or not, he was being pushed out of his own band, and how shitty that must feel.

I just really hate to see people proving the exact point right there.

on 2009-01-07 03:40 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] nikitaquincy.livejournal.com
Oh wow. :( Poor Joe, that just breaks my heart.

on 2009-01-07 03:43 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] rosiedoes.livejournal.com
Mine too.

I was going to go to bed an hour ago, but I stayed up reading this and now I wish I hadn't.

on 2009-01-07 03:47 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] nikitaquincy.livejournal.com
Yeah, I can understand why. I had no idea he even felt that way. :(

on 2009-01-07 03:54 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] rosiedoes.livejournal.com
Oh, I totally called it. Totally. I've been saying for years that if I was in his place I'd basically feel like a session musician and everyone completely dismissed what I was saying.

Now dismiss it, you fucking muppets. Ugh.

Poor, poor Joe...

on 2009-01-07 04:20 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] anjak-j.livejournal.com
You know, I'm not even into this band but I've seen that happen in other bands and it just makes me incredibly sad for him. Especially when he is the guy who started the band.

That's just really crap.

on 2009-01-07 11:05 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] rosiedoes.livejournal.com
Poor kid.

Andy is saying that the whole thing was taken out of context, but... if those are direct quotes, there doesn't seem to be too many ways to take them.

And it's definitely not the first time he's said that, either.

From a recent AP article:

It's been a bumpier ride for Joe Trohman since the release of Infinity. There was a time not long ago when the FOB co-founder didn't feel so connected to the band, mainly because he fell for one of the newer "old" tricks in the book: He started believing the internet. "I felt, 'Man, this isn't my band anymore.' It's no one's fault, and I don't want to make it seem that way. It was more of a complex I developed myself based off of the stuff I was reading," he says during a follow up interview from his home in Chicago. "It's hard to hear, 'Joe and Andy are just along for the ride.'"

Trohman, who recently popped the question to his fiancée during a trip to Tokyo, took some time to himself and worked on music with other people (nothing he wants to make public). Then he had a heart-to-heart with Stump, leading to more collaboration on Folie A Deux. "It made me feel like I owned the songs a lot more," he says. "It made me really excited about contributing to Fall Out Boy and made me find my role in the band."

"We've all had our times like that," says Stump later about Trohman's story. "I've had times like that in the band where I'm like, 'Oh, no one cares what I think.' Pete's had times like that, Andy's had times like that. We've all quit at some point. And all of us are still here, so that tells you something."

Trohman is in a different mindset now, so when you get him going about the new album, he won't stop. "There are just these different weird guitar parts in it. It think a lot of our influences get overlooked, like Metallica, Prince, the Kinks, the Rolling Stones. People hear maybe some funk and the pop-punk an stop at that," he says, before going on a Queen rant. "I love Queen, and I hear a lot of that on the record. I think the guys might get annoyed with me saying that all of the time, but I just love Queen. And all of the vocal harmonies remind me of Queen." He stops for a moment and laughs. "Man, I feel like I need to get a new shtick."

on 2009-01-07 06:48 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] edgiko.livejournal.com
What sucks more?

Is that the article took this WAY out of context. Whether or not Joe actually feels that way about the band constantly, we will never fucking know because they twisted a lot of what the band said during that interview.

Hence why Pete and Andy are all "RAWR" right now.

To me, that shows a lot of disrespect towards Joe to make him fit the part of Joe the media paints.
Edited on 2009-01-07 08:33 am (UTC)

on 2009-01-07 10:48 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] rosiedoes.livejournal.com
I don't see, if that is what he said, how it would sound any different in any other context.

And it isn't the first time in the last month or two that he's been quoted as saying almost exactly the same thing...

on 2009-01-07 07:47 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] desireem81.livejournal.com
I really wanted to hug him too. Then I read Andy's twitter and felt a little better. I still want to hug him because I think that hugging Joe would be awesome.

Blender really screwed with everyone.

on 2009-01-07 08:34 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] edgiko.livejournal.com
Same here. I want to hug Joe even more now because they misrepresented his statement.

on 2009-01-07 08:37 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] desireem81.livejournal.com
^_^

We should all have a big Joe hug fest... Then again we may scare him. But I hope he knows how special many of us find him and we appreciate him so.

on 2009-01-08 04:54 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] ohh-whatsername.livejournal.com
I'm a bit late to all of this but that saddened me so much as well. I'd love to hear more of Joe's influence in the music, but i've been secretly hoping for a heavier side project from him in a while.

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