rosiedoes: (FOB: SrsBiz)
I just said most of this to [livejournal.com profile] coricomile, [livejournal.com profile] supercasio and [livejournal.com profile] doctor_denmark one way or another, so I figure I may as well say it here, too...

I think the thing to remember is that this is Pete. Pete has been doing shit like this for years and after every album, people have been sure they were on the verge of breaking up.

People are bugging them within a few months of clocking off for what they perceived as a lengthy holiday, it's hardly surprising that he can't imagine coming back yet. When you go home for the holidays are you thinking about going back to school or work? Hell, no! You're thinking how much time you get to spend with your family, your bed and doing all the stuff you can't do the rest of the time.

They have been being Fall Out Boy for the better part of the last decade. Even when they last had a break, it was continually interrupted by shows and publicity. Pete'll get bored soon enough and will probably be bugging them to work on the next album, in a couple of weeks. Frankly, he's probably just feeling emo and neglected right now because Andy and Joe are in a band that is being taken seriously (something it's worth noting that FOB haven't entirely achieved, of late), and Patrick is always busy hanging out with his new best friend, Home Studio.

Part of me thinks that maybe, after years of the band saying, "We'd be nothing without Pete, we can't do this without Pete," their forrays into actually, y'know: doing things without Pete has spooked him and wounded him a little bit. Even Patrick - the shy, introverted, self-conscious little kid they made to sing - is doing an album by himself and starting out in the industry on his own merit. That must be hugely jarring (and awesome, from a friend's perspective, but scary and jarring none the less). Is it any wonder he feels like they've grown apart and that he's unsure of his place in the band, now?

All the fans harrassing them for times and answers is just going to result in ill-thought-out comments (like this one) and snap decisions that people will regret.

Leave them to it and if coming back is right for them, that's what they'll do. If it's not, then give them the chance to come to that realisation through their personal growth and consideration, and on their own terms.

As much as the fans like to think differently, we don't own them, they're not our toys (even if we borrow the concept of them for fic, at times). When they're ready, they'll make their choice - but nothing that has been said in the last twenty-four hours is an announcement of any great finality. Keep Calm & Carry On.

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Sunday, 17 February 2008 08:48 pm
rosiedoes: (FOB: STFU)
So, we discover that Patrick is also into small, yappy dogs, and everyone starts mocking and pointing out that SORRY BUT THAT IS A GAY MAN'S POOCH. If it fits in a handbag, it's not a dog for a straight dude. It's not, I'm sorry.

And we're clearly making fun of him, saying that OMG PATRICK CAME OUT. Because, y'know: THEY ACT GAY AND KISS AND ALL SAY THEY LOVE EACH OTHER AND EVERYONE KNOWS IT. And we love the dude and like the dog and it's funny.

And yet there are always the total fucking morons with no sense of humour, who are clearly still convinced that one day they're going to get married a pet together with Patrick, who feel the need to be all Rational™ and point out, 'Um, guys? Lisa probably picked the dog'.

WTF, NO WAY?! HIS GIRLFRIEND?! MIGHT HAVE PICKED THE HANDBAG POOCH?! REALLY?!?!?!!111!!!!

How fucking dumb are these people? Because there's this thing, right? And it's called humour. And affectionately teasing people you're fond of is humourous. It is - get this - kidding around. I know it's hard to imagine, given so many of you are fans of a band who dress up in dayglo and make a point of NOT TAKING THINGS SERIOUSLY, but once in a while, step back and just laugh with the rest of us, okay?

It'll make bandom a happier place to be. And I won't have to punch your face in if you ever meet me.

Heads up.

Wednesday, 29 August 2007 12:14 am
rosiedoes: (FOB: Gigz)
Some people crack me up.

I'll make a full post about Edinburgh soon - including pychotic old ladies harrassing people who were invited into the queue behind them (if you get there at the crack of dawn, that's your prerogative - don't get pissy that people can be there without needing to prostrate themselves at the gates), and the fact that Dirty was talking about his departure in the middle of a group of fans on Wednesday night. Twisting what happens to make yourself sound involved is a huge waste of time and that's what's going to make the crew not like you, kids - remember that.

And please don't listen to what you hear about Pete being disinterested in the crowd. He was really interacting with us. He was enjoying himself and he was grinning like an idiot.

More to follow when I've finished laughing writing.

Oh, please.

Friday, 27 July 2007 07:30 pm
rosiedoes: (FOB: Kissy)
I decided to make my LJ 'registered members only' for comments, so that I can ban people from commenting and avoid lurkers.

It's really kind of creepy to have random people you've no interest in poking around and trying to interfere. At least I can now ban people fully.

See, I don't like lurkers. I don't believe the things I post are interesting enough to warrant it and if people are only here to try to one-up each other or don't have the balls to leave an identifying name, even a fake one, so I know it's they who comment more than once, they're not the kind of people I want to know are around. I refuse to make my entire journal friends only, but I don't want to know you're here if you can't justify why.

Or if I just plain think you're obnoxious.

Let's get another thing straight: some people around here have met certain bands (or actors, or... random people) several times. And that's cool for them/you, seriously, but I honestly do not care or need to know important you think that makes your opinion. Whatever you think you are, you're just another kid; never forget that. I probably have very little to say to you and if all you have is 'bragging material' pack it up and go and play with the twelve year olds because they'll be much more impressed, I promise.
rosiedoes: (Mood: Stalk)
Okay, no offence to the icon maker, because they're nice icons and she's neither the first nor the last to create some like this, but the subject of the first couple of lines here kind of weirds me out.

It feels like that's slipping from the realms of fan to the land of the stalker.

If I was famous and people were using icons of my girlfriend, or my ex, (unless she was a celebrity in her own right - like a fellow musician, or an actress) I would feel really weird about it. I'd probably feel weird about it even if she was more famous than me, actually.

As a fan, even if I really liked Jeanae (and frankly, as a person - just as a girl from the Midwest called Jeanae - I'm entirely neutral about her because I don't know her), I wouldn't want to have an icon of her on my LJ. It just feels creepy to me...



Die, fuckers.

Sunday, 14 January 2007 01:47 am
rosiedoes: (Mood: Rage)
FOBRock Boardies kind of make me sick.

I have never known such a self-obsessed bunch of insensitive little cunts.

Some of them are fine. Some of them seem to be pleasant and intelligent - don't get me wrong, I don't mean all of them.

But tonight alone I have seen people making posts mocking Pete's supposed suicide attempt, a while back - calling one really personal aspect that I'm sure was symbolic to him at the time 'retarded'. And all this knowing the guy reads the stuff we post (and since a new inteview posted tonight, that Patrick does, too) and after seeing a post in his blog where he seems extremely unhappy, and may be talking about a friend's suicide - and as well as knowing that the things the fans say, especially in things like the Q&A can really make or break his mood. He's told us in the past how much reading the "we love you, you're a great person" posts can really make him feel better when he's down; and I tend to think he's telling it straight, because frankly he strikes me as the sort of person who needs approval, even if he tries to tell himself he doesn't.

Why the hell would you talk shit about someone you're supposed to look up to, least of all where they can read it? And the people who made the comments on that post do consider themselves fans. I just can't comprehend it. Just yesterday the same people were posting pictures of Patrick being silly, and puppies, in a thread specifically intended to bring him out of whatever funk he's got himself in - the 'Cheer Up Pete thread'. How can someone not understand that if you're already depressed, and have made an attempt on your own life in the past, people acting like you're stupid - people who are supposed to be on your side - can make you feel so much worse?

Seriously?

I attempted suicide, once. I know how low you have to be to do it and mean it (although, I should note that he's always refused to call it suicide), and I know that if the people around me called me a 'retard' and said how pathetic something that potentially meant something REALLY FUCKING IMPORTANT to me was, I would be really hurt. It would make me feel pretty alone and misunderstood - which seems to be his problem half the time.


Given this information, I also find it disgusting that someone would post, "Pete better not be out of it at my gig tomorrow because I'm travelling five hours to get there". If you know someone is in a bad way, emotionally, what the fuck makes you feel justified in being so fucking selfish? Bands have cancelled entire fucking tours for less, and the guy is also reportedly quite sick physically at the moment, so it's lucky he's getting on stage at all. Yes, people have paid for the tickets; yes, they might be travelling a long way - but if he's giving the best he can, given the shit he's going through then people should be a bit more damn grateful for it.


I'm really ashamed to be a Boardie, when they talk like that.


I'm also ashamed that they submitted a question to a Patrick about slash - AND IT WAS ASKED BY THE BBC INTERVIEWER! - and the clearly uncomfortable response on the audio is taken by them as his being 'cool' with it. He is not fucking 'cool' with it! He sounds really awkward - especially when they specifically bring up him and Pete, his best fucking friend - but says "whatever, y'know?" as if he doesn't want to piss people off by saying otherwise.

The first rule of slash: do not tell the person you slash, you ignorant cunts. Keep your perverse interests (and I include myself in this) fucking personal or within the community you know shares them. What fucking validation do you want from them? Are Pete's jokes not enough? Everyone already regards Patrick as this shy, self-conscious little guy - and if I see another thread speculating on whether he's a virgin or not I swear I will fucking kill someone - why the hell would you want to corrupt something you regard as innocent? WHY?

ETA: Oh yes - and in the same interview they submitted - and it was asked - a question about whether Patrick really was 'made of plasticine', which was a dig from Kerrang! this week. How fucking mean is that? This is a guy everyone knows worries about the way he looks and they're fucking asking questions like that? Way to fucking go, arseholes.


And then there are the lovely little people who give out the band's personal information on the web. I know both Patrick and Pete have MySpace, thanks to a post on the forums. Both of these accounts are set to private because they obviously don't want a million fourteen year olds harrassing them. That much is pretty fucking obvious. So what do people do? They send Patrick messages through it because they know he won't add them. And they make posts every day saying, "Ooh! Pete's online!" because people hand out his personal IM screen name for everyone to add.

SERIOUSLY. GET A FUCKING CLUE.

If he wanted us to know this, he would give it to us. Let them have some fucking privacy! Just because you buy their records and have their t-shirt and once Pete smiled at you in a meet and fucking greet, does not mean you fucking own them. They are YOUNG and they are REAL FUCKING PEOPLE with real fucking problems and the last thing they fucking need are obnoxious little cunts thinking that they have a right to every aspect of their lives and not just the fucking time they give you - which, frankly is already a lot fucking more than most bands do.


I love Fall Out Boy for being so close to their fans and being so approachable, but there are times when people take a fucking mile more than they're entitled to (like the people who stole the bags of old clothes Pete's mum put out with the trash, and now walk around Chicago WEARING HIS CLOTHES).


Oh, and I'm not sure of the politics of this, but the 'friend' who posted shit about Pete in his LJ, and told all his minions - the minions he only appears to have because he's famous for being friends with the band - to repost everywhere they could, in order to make Pete look bad and as an effort to destroy fans' faith in him, is still some kind of hero to most people on the board. There have been tons of posts about, "I'm going to Chris's gig on Friday - who's going?"

Now, call me fucking crazy, but if someone did that to my favourite band - which, actually, they have - I would be after their blood, not tickets to their show. Especially when said show consists of some ligging prat reading aloud from his book of Stuff I Did In Chicago Before And After I Was Famous Because Someone I Was Really Fucking Evil About Wrote A Song Saying I Was Their Friend.

If I had met that malicious bitch from NME who slagged off Kieran's voice, even thought it was years ago, I would still smash her face in. Because I saw how much it hurt his feelings.

I can't comprehend how people would be such disloyal bastards as to support someone who tried to destroy someone they claim to care about (if all the "mrsXpeteXwentz"-style usernames are anything to go by - and that one probably exists but I don't necessarily mean that user).


Am I just too much of an idealist, because I wouldn't treat people like that? Really.




I hate fans.

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